Writing to an ex-JW

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Me to Jack Grey

12/6/2022 at 10:48 AM

Fw: Good Day, I never was a JW ...

I could not get in touch with Vevian Vozmediano, but you will do too:

Fw what I had sent her:

... but I value some who still are - or in one particular instance, who was on the edge.

"When the truth that used to be truth has become truth again" - he was no fan of the new light theory.

This said, I never wanted to be part of JW's, as I have no wish to deny the Divinity of Christ or the Blessed Trinity.

Now, may I ask you, and put your answer, perhaps our discussion, on a blog of mine ... Correspondence de / of / van Hans Georg Lundahl ... what do you think I should do IF:

• a) I am not a member of a high control cult (at least not one that worked out that way with me)
• b) lots of people THINK I am
• c) THEIR worries and efforts to get me out of it actually work like a high control cult pushing me into a kind of social prison?

Also, as you are an ex-JW, you may confirm, towards any Catholic favouring Day-Age over strict YEC, that far from my YEC being due to influence from the JW, it is actually their position that is if not from the JW, at least JW-compatible, and highly so?

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Jack Grey to me

12/6/2022 at 1:33 PM

Re: Good Day, I never was a JW ...

Not sure why this was sent to me. Is there a question?

Jack Grey
Empoweredmindstm@gmail.com

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Me to Jack Grey

12/6/2022 at 4:33 PM

Re: Re: Good Day, I never was a JW ...

Yes, to either or both of you.

A) Supposing I am NOT where you were when you were convinced JW's, and therefore, if I got you right, controlled, what should I do if a network thinks I am and goes on ambushing my life without convincing me, and don't say "go to the police" if the police would be involved themselves;
B) As I am a YEC and some "fellow Catholics" tend to present this as my being unduly influenced by JW's, can you confirm JW's are actually (like those people!) Old Earth, namely Day Age;
C) and hope you don't mind putting answers or discussion on my blog.

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Jack Grey to me

12/6/2022 at 6:45 PM

Re: Good Day, I never was a JW ...

I think you are using google translate. Not sure if english is your first language but the questions are very difficult to understand.

A) If JWs come to your home and you want them to stop simply say: thank you for coming please put me on your: DO NOT CALL list. If they are your friends simply ask them not to discuss religion with you. - very quickly you will find out if they are your friends or they are there to convert you.

B) From my perspective JWs are using most of the techniques of undue influence. Eg: Shunning of ex members, fear mongering, believing they are special and the only ones that will be saved, stay with us or you will die, you are with us or you are against us, Governing Body is the only channel of communication with God etc.

C) You can copy and paste my answers wherever you wish

Hope that helps

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Me to Jack Grey

12/6/2022 at 8:33 PM

Re: Good Day, I never was a JW ...

While my English is indeed not regionally anchored and not my first language, I am NOT using google translate.

And your guessing I were doing that is probably the reason why your answers are at least to point A (fortunately not to point C) adressing something other than what I actually asked.

A, my words:
"if a network thinks I am and goes on ambushing my life without convincing me, and don't say "go to the police" if the police would be involved themselves"

It should be clear from this, the network are not JW's. For instance, they are not usually admitted into the police.

A, your answer:
"If JWs come to your home and you want them to stop simply say: thank you for coming please put me on your: DO NOT CALL list. If they are your friends simply ask them not to discuss religion with you. - very quickly you will find out if they are your friends or they are there to convert you."

But my question was not actually about what to do about JW's. While they may legitimately be trouble to some, most notably ex-members, they are not to me.

B) The guys who are that to me are guys who tried no undue influence of my own perspectives, but are influencing others unduly about me. I am referring to people in Trad Catholic parishes who are telling their young or generous parishioners about me "he's influenced by JW's, otherwise he would be day age like we and not Young Earth Creationist like they are." So, I was asking you to confirm that in fact JW's - like them, not me - favour the Day Age reading of Genesis 1.

C) Thank you very much.

Hans Georg Lundahl