Contacts pris avec Rivarol et Galia Ackerman

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Moi à Rivarol

11/4/2022 at 10:55 AM

Est-ce que Vincent Reynouard m'en veut de ne pas avoir choisi un champ de bataille illégal, parce que l'endroit est hormis la feu Soviétique?

New blog on the kid : 3:51 à 4:32 avant-hier matin
https://nov9blogg9.blogspot.com/2022/11/351-432-avant-hier-matin.html

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Moi à Galia Ackerman

Via le site Desk Russie

11/4/2022 at 12:53 PM

Bonjour, à propos l'FSB

Selon Galia Ackerman - je viens de lire l'express hier - l'équipe de l'auparavant nommé KGB a réussi de reprendre le pouvoir en Russie.

Pour moi, j'ai connu très brièvement la droite française en 1991, à l'époque, elle était solidamment anti-soviétique, mais est-elle encore anti-FSB?

J'ai sympathisé avec Marion Maréchal comme parlementaire - mais ensuite, ISSEP, ça me déroute. Considérez-vous que la droite française pourrait être une nouvelle conquête de l'FSB?

Quand Stéphane Courtois a sorti Le livre noir du Communisme, il a eu un interview en Présent - l'a-t-il eu aussi quand le cible principale est plus récent?

Si je pouvais partager une éventuelle réponse ou encore mieux discussion sur le blog ...

Correspondence de / of / van Hans Georg Lundahl
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/

.... "that would be great" comme on dit en anglais.

Tout réactionnaire que je suis, et je me qualifie de fasciste (notons, le mot sonne autrement en Espagne, Autriche et Italie qu'en Europe de l'Est ou dans les pays de l'Europe Centrale ayant appartenu au pacte de Warsowie), je n'aime pas stalinisme doublé de la ploutocratie, ce que je vois sous Poutine (avec, bien entendu, beaucoup moins de perspective que vous).

Exemple, trouvez-vous réaliste de soupçonner que, pour Rivarol, pour St. Nicolas du Chardonnet ou les gens qui donnent le la, là-bas et encore quelques a) je viens d'un pays de l'Est (genre Autriche et Suède, c'est à peu près la Pologne sous Gomułka + les mises à jour après 1990), b) donc les gens des pays de l'Est (Pologne, Hongrie, Czequie, Russie, Ukraine, cette fois) sont des experts sur l'éducation que j'ai dû recevoir, c) ce qui les conduit à les permettre d'interpréter ce que je veux réellement dire avec une chose, genre avec un blog dont l'URL contient "nov9blogg9" ce qui devrait être du polonais ou quelque chose (en fait, le latin - novus bloggus est latin, et je boycotte "ephemeridium electronicum" pour blog! - a été langue officielle de la Pologne - mais quand le polonais l'était en Lithuanie, Grand-Duché, pas état-national), donc a eux de me décrypter, et d) dès par là des gens directement appartenant ou indirectement apparentés à l'FSB peut leur dire et convaincre que i) je fais le coq, donc suis pédé, ij) j'ai tout raté (ils l'auraient répéré dans des conversations en polonais* avec moi), iij) je suis manipulé, iu) je protège mon manipulateur en cachant son identité, u) et en fond, je manque très la sécurité, sur tous les plans, y compris intellectuel, comme on peut s'en attendre d'un ado ou d'un ado attardé, uj) description parfaite malgré mes 54 ans, vu que je ne me défais pas de Tolkien, C. S. Lewis, une compréhension fondamentaliste de la Bible, une confidence illimitée dans l'Église catholique** et une confidence illimité dans le sens litéral historique de la Bible ... uij) et que certaines choses sont résumés comme "il croit des théories de complot totalement délirantes" ce que pourrait viser Florian de Rouanet?

Ou en général que l'FSB, avec un certain pro-Poutinisme, soit devenu en état de manipuler de ce genre de manières la droite nationale française?

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris, St. Charles Borromée, 4.XI.2022

* Studiwalem jezyk polski tylko jeden termyn, pol czas, niestetny! Et c'était en 2003 plus un examen au début de 2004. Donc évidemment que j'aurais des meilleurs réussites de parler en polonais qu'en français, non?
** Les Protestants et Orthodoxes que ça agace, avec des Juifs, n'ont pas à dire à leur interlocuteurs que ce qui les agace comprend de justifier le rôle de St. Pie V dans la St. Bartholomée 1572 ou son expulsion des Juifs hormis ceux de Rome et Ancone à une distance d'une centaine de km max sur 90 jours de délai - pourquoi ça intéresserait

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Moi à Galia Ackerman

11/4/2022 at 4:42 PM

Un ajout sur mon example ... numéros uiij et ix

Exemple, trouvez-vous réaliste de soupçonner que, pour Rivarol, pour St. Nicolas du Chardonnet ou les gens qui donnent le la, là-bas et encore quelques a) je viens d'un pays de l'Est (genre Autriche et Suède, c'est à peu près la Pologne sous Gomułka + les mises à jour après 1990), b) donc les gens des pays de l'Est (Pologne, Hongrie, Czequie, Russie, Ukraine, cette fois) sont des experts sur l'éducation que j'ai dû recevoir, c) ce qui les conduit à les permettre d'interpréter ce que je veux réellement dire avec une chose, genre avec un blog dont l'URL contient "nov9blogg9" ce qui devrait être du polonais ou quelque chose (en fait, le latin - novus bloggus est latin, et je boycotte "ephemeridium electronicum" pour blog! - a été langue officielle de la Pologne - mais quand le polonais l'était en Lithuanie, Grand-Duché, pas état-national), donc a eux de me décrypter, et d) dès par là des gens directement appartenant ou indirectement apparentés à l'FSB peut leur dire et convaincre que i) je fais le coq, donc suis pédé, ij) j'ai tout raté (ils l'auraient répéré dans des conversations en polonais* avec moi), iij) je suis manipulé, iu) je protège mon manipulateur en cachant son identité, u) et en fond, je manque très la sécurité, sur tous les plans, y compris intellectuel, comme on peut s'en attendre d'un ado ou d'un ado attardé, uj) description parfaite malgré mes 54 ans, vu que je ne me défais pas de Tolkien, C. S. Lewis, une compréhension fondamentaliste de la Bible, une confidence illimitée dans l'Église catholique** et une confidence illimité dans le sens litéral historique de la Bible ... uij) et que certaines choses sont résumés comme "il croit des théories de complot totalement délirantes" ce que pourrait viser Florian de Rouanet?

uiij) et que géocentrisme est résumé comme "terre plate" (ce qui est contraire à la connaissance géographique obtenu par des témoins, donc exigerait - contrairement au géocentrisme - un complot de cacher observations pour être vrai
ix) et que mes preuves de Dieu ne seraient pas preuves sauf pour ceux qui croient déjà en Dieu (Communisme de KGB classique, véhiculé par Kirill) ...

Raison de l'ajout, quelques heures après de vous avoir contactés, cette vidéo m'est suggérée:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHsJ3S1Joc (ix)

qui me conduit à celle-ci:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBqxhdrjDfs (uiij)

Que ce soit fait humainement directement envers moi, ou que des hystériques contactés (par exemple par vous) se seraient mis à prier pour que je "découvre mon erreur ridicule" ... sans de jamais vérifier eux-même si j'avais fait l'erreur exacte attribué à moi, ou si ce que j'avais répondu était vraiment ridicule ...

Hans Georg Lundahl

Aeslin Bard of Sacratus Apologetics Does No More Believe the Book of Mormon

So, I am asking him, if he was giving it a similar status as historic knowledge of George Washington. As I read his answer, it is no. But read the correspondence for yourselves.

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Me to Aeslin Bard

9/26/2022 at 12:57 PM

Consistency of Criteria

As you are a former believer of the Book of Mormon, I'd like to ask you if you ever considered it secure knowledge the same way as (not as much as, but known the same way as) :

• George Washington being the first President of the United States
• or Joseph Smith being first in the "Restoration"?

If you don't mind, I would be very happy to post the correspondence to this blog of mine:

Correspondence de / of / van Hans Georg Lundahl
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/

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Aeslin Bard to Me

9/27/2022 at 7:55 PM

RE: Consistency of Criteria

I never considered belief in the Book of Mormon of the same type of secure knowledge as knowing that George Washington was the first president of the United States. At the time I did see it as a type of secure knowledge. Though, even at the time I didn't see it as the same type of secure knowledge. On the other hand, in Mormon theology one can achieve a level of knowledge above faith that is secure and sure knowledge in things of the spirit that is more secure than the kind of knowing that George Washington lived. However, I personally find that this doctrine undermines the importance of faith and hope in our lives, and misunderstandd it. The foundation of faith and hope is trust in and love of God. I know, a type of secure knowledge (and I use that word 'know' purposefully), that even in my difficult moments I can depend on God. This is still backed by my own experience and the experiences from Sacred Scripture and church history at how God has always upheld and supported those who trust in him. In short, the Mormon Church does frequently say that they don't have the Gold Plates because belief in the Book of Mormon should be based on faith. But, faith is what God gives to us. Faith is from God and not physical evidence. St. Thomas the apostle is evidence for that point. Archaeological proof isn't the cause of faith. The physical Gold Plates wouldn't cause belief anymore than the mountains of biblical archaeology is the cause of faith for those scholars who still are atheist and agnostic and are biblical scholars. Though, the lack of the plates and the numerous unanswered questions in regard to Mormon history does call into question the claims of Mormonism.

In Christ,

Aeslin Bard

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Me to Aeslin Bard

9/27/2022 at 8:04 PM

Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

Thank you very much!

The position I have is, to Moses, Joseph in Egypt, to Joseph Abraham and to Abraham the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 leading back to Adam and to Genesis 3 were the very same type of secure knowledge that we have of George Washington - spirit or not.

And the position of a certain Mr. Henke is, this could have come about by means such as Joseph Smith's forgery of the Book of Mormon.

I disagree on the ground you state, namely that the Book of Mormon does not have the simple status of "history" but of "history first lost and then spectacularily recovered" ...

What would you say to this?

What Henke Responded - up to "Henke2022aa" (with ab and ai looked up in advance, since referred to in previous) · Ah, Some New · Back to Philosophy · Beginning on Henke2022az? Nope. · Why Catalogue the Supernatural? Why Catalogue Fiction? · Henke(2022bi) Starts It Today! But I only get to Henke(2022bk) For Now. · New Batch of Henke Essays · Resuming at Henke(2022bL) after Interruption, up to 2022br. · Why Did I Bring Up Greek Myth? · Historicity of Certain Religious Stories, Notably Genesis

Which ones contain the Book of Mormon back and forth?

https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/search?q=Mormon

Read at leasure or answer without much reading, as you wish.

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Aeslin Bard to Me

9/28/2022 at 12:23 AM

Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

I think that comparing faith, especially religious faith, to the kind of knowledge that we know George Washington lived or that I'm typing on a computer, misses the central understanding of faith. True, faith does increase our intellect. However, the importance of faith is that it moves our will so we can say yes, essentially, to truths revealed supernaturally by God and thereby put those truths into practice (to paraphrase the Catechism of the Catholic Church, para. 1814-1816). In other words, hope focuses our vision, faith lightens our path, and love for the things of God moves us.

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Me to Aeslin Bard

9/28/2022 at 11:51 AM

Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

With that Atheist, I was not discussing faith. I was discussing the natural evidence for historic truths.

Genesis 3 to Moses was both naturally known history and a truth of faith.

It was naturally known history insofar as he was heir of the tradition.

It was a truth of faith, insofar as he believed the words of God, to the serpent, to Eve, to Adam.

These two are distinct. Just as one can accept historically that Our Lord rose from the grave before accepting He is God, in faith, so also for the historic truths of the first 11 chapters of Genesis (well, chapter 1 was arguably a vision given to Moses)./HGL

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Aeslin Bard to Me

9/28/2022 at 1:17 PM

Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

I assume calling me atheist was a typo. We must be having a miscommunication because I don't see any natural for the book of mormon or their claims. The Mormon church has even said that natural evidence doesn't promote faith. However, if you want my position on natural vs. revealed faith I'll be more than happy to ablige.

God Bless!

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Me to Aeslin Bard

9/28/2022 at 4:48 PM

Re: Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

Sorry for the annoyance, I did not call YOU an Atheist.

I called Kevin R. Henke one, though technically incorrect as he insists on Agnostic rather than Atheist. So, in a sense it was even so a "typo" ... but culturally, he's very close to them.

If you had looked up the links, you would have seen I was having a debate with him.

"I don't see any natural for the book of mormon or their claims."

Exactly. And especially : the closest they come to believing Book of Mormon "as history" is very distinct from believing (naturally) George Washington as history.

That was the support I wanted FROM you and FOR the debate with Mr. Henke.

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Aeslin Bard to Me

9/28/2022 at 5:02 PM

Re: Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

No annoyance at all. I'm glad I was able to assist. Anything else, don't hesitate to ask my friend.

In Christ!

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Me to Aeslin Bard

9/28/2022 at 5:11 PM

Re: Re: Re: RE: Consistency of Criteria

Thank you very much.

I'll put this up on my blog when I get a better computer than at this library (with full functions).

Hans Georg Lundahl

Stephan Borgehammar Brushing Up My Greek a Bit

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: My Ancient Greek May Be Rusty, But Not Inextant · Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl: Stephan Borgehammar Brushing Up My Greek a Bit

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Me to Stephan Borgehammar

9/27/2022 at 1:34 PM

peri pleistou, Critias (in English as I ask to get your answer/s to my blog)

Am I right or is Athina right?

Me:
For the most, that which is to be made is not to live, but to live well.
(Me, not noted alternative) :
That which is to be made for the most is not to live, but to live well.
Athina:
One should not live to gain more things but to live well.

You may also be interested in Neanderthal démise:

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : So Far Confirming my Theories
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2022/09/so-far-confirming-my-theories.html

The latest updates from it are from today, with tbitfiddler!

Ha det så godt!
Hans Georg Lundahl

Answered twice

II a and II b

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Stephan Borgehammar to Me

9/27/2022 at 10:01 PM

Re: peri pleistou, Critias (in English as I ask to get your answer/s to my blog)

I checked a few places where Plato writes περί πλείστου ποιείν and it seems to mean “value most highly”. So I would translate: “To live should not be valued most highly, but to live well.”

Bästa hälsningar,
Stephan

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Me to Stephan Borgehammar

9/28/2022 at 11:47 AM

Re: peri pleistou, Critias (in English as I ask to get your answer/s to my blog)

Thank you!

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Stephan Borgehammar to Me

9/27/2022 at 10:03 PM

Re: peri pleistou, Critias (in English as I ask to get your answer/s to my blog)

PS: A similar English expression is “to make the most of”.

Idem

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Me to Stephan Borgehammar

9/28/2022 at 11:48 AM

Re: peri pleistou, Critias (in English as I ask to get your answer/s to my blog)

Ah, not bad!

The kind of thing I miss with too little sleep!

Thank you again!/HGL

Condolances to the Vatican in Exile

New blog on the kid : HH Pope Michel - RIP · Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : Condolances to the Vatican in Exile

It seems their contact form is malfunctioning, but this site is well read, so maybe someone may get it through by snail mail.

Website Contact Form

8/3/2022 at 3:22 PM

From: vaticaninexile

Name:

Hans Georg Lundahl

Email:

hgl@dr.com

How May We Help You?:

I heard His Holiness just passed away.

RIP.

I am definitely not a candidate for succession.

A copy of this email transmission was sent to:

hgl@dr.com

Their site is:
Vatican in Exile
https://www.vaticaninexile.com/

Le premier chef d'état finlandais parlait le suédois (avant le finnois)

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Moi à l'Institut finlandais

6/2/2022 at 3:05 AM

Urhon Kekkosen ou Uron Kekkosen?

Non, ce n'était pas le vrai sujet.

Je dirais que "finlandais" correspond au suédois "finsk/finländsk" mais jamais à "finne" puisque un Finnois diffère d'un Suéco-Finlandais ...

Quelqu'un à Rivarol (qui prétendait en plus la Finlande disputée entre Suède et Russie depuis très longtemps avant 1809!) parlait d'un "finlandais parlant le finnois" et je dirais qu'un Finnois parle le finnois et apprend le suédois, un Suéco-Finlandais parle le suédois et apprend le finnois, sauf sur Åland, et que les deux sont Finlandais, comme un Wallon et un Flamand sont, les deux, également des Belges.

Or, il pourrait avoir prié pour que je reconnaisse mon erreur, d'où la trouvaille sur Päivi Räsänen. Très évidemment une Finnoise, à mon avis.

Päivi Räsänen, ex-ministre de l'intérieur finlandaise
la procureure générale finlandaise
députée finlandaise

Je suis bien entendu d'accord avec le mot "finlandais" ici, comme je le serait avec le mot "belge" si c'était à Bruxelles dans ce genre de context, mais on est d'accord qu'en plus d'être citoyenne finlandaise, elle est une Finnoise, comme Hergé en plus d'être citoyen belge était un Wallon, non?

Qu'en pensez-vous, et est-ce que Urho Kekkonen a du "stadievexling" dans le prénom ou non, et est-ce que Mannerheim parlait le finnois, ou juste le suédois et l'allemand (en plus du russe)?/HGL

PS, en cas de réponse, j'ai le plan de republier sur Correspondence de / of / van Hans-Georg Lundahl/LM

["stadievexling" - nom. Ruoka (nourriture), gen. Ruoan (de la nourriture, sans k), ainsi Katto, Katon (toît ou plafond, un seul t au gen.), Kunta, Kunnan (municipalité, nt remplacé par nn).]

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L'Institut finlandais à moi

6/2/2022 at 5:17 PM

Re: Urhon Kekkosen ou Uron Kekkosen?

Bonjour Hans-Georg,

Merci pour votre message et votre intérêt pour l'Institut finlandais.

Les Finlandais suédophones sont des Finlandais qui parlent le suédois comme langue maternelle et sont enregistrés comme suédophones. Les Finlandais suédophones appellent tous les Finlandais finländare (Finlandais) et les Finlandais finnophones finnar (Finnois). Avec tout cela, en Finlande, ceux qui parlent le finnois comme langue maternelle et ceux qui parlent le suédois comme langue maternelle sont tous deux des Finlandais.

Pour le prénom Urho il n'y a pas de "stadieväxling" dans ce cas. Le suédois était la langue maternelle de Mannerheim et il a également appris le finnois, l'anglais, l'allemand, le français et le russe.

En espérant que notre réponse puisse vous aider.

Très bonne journée à vous !

Bien cordialement,
L'équipe de l'Institut finlandais
+33 7 68 44 07 66
info@institut-finlandais.fr

Institut finlandais
60, rue des Écoles, 75005 Paris

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Moi à l'Institut finlandais

6/2/2022 at 10:42 PM

Re: Urhon Kekkosen ou Uron Kekkosen?

Merci beaucoup!

Le premier chef d'état de la Finlande libre (après la brève république des Tavastes au nord d'Uusimaa, protectorat de la Suède avant Birger Jarl) était donc un Finlandais suédophone, un finlandssvensk.

Et Finlandais se réfère aux deux ethnies, comme Belge aux Wallons et aux Flamands.

Et, si jamais je suivrai le bon exemple de Mannerheim, d'apprendre votre noble langue, Urhon Kekkosen.

Hyvvää kiitos!*/HGL

*

C'est bien hyvää, avec un v, "my bad" comme on dit ...

Lesquels sont le plus anti-avortement?

Il faut finir avec ce carnage. Pour les présidentielles, je n'ai pas donné des consignes, je ne suis pas un Français. Mais je suis Chrétien, pour les législatives, faites bloc contre l'avortement !

Ma première missive à Nicolas Dupont-Aignan manque, son contenu peut être deviné par sa réponse.

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Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN à moi

12/6/2021 at 2:49 PM

Clause de conscience

Cher Monsieur,


Vous avez bien voulu me faire part de votre inquiétude, pour ne pas dire votre profonde indignation, concernant l’allongement du délai de l’Interruption Volontaire de Grossesse (IVG), tel qu’il figure dans la proposition de loi déposée par un certain nombre de mes collègues Députés éco-féministes, notamment au regard de la clause de conscience.

Permettez-moi tout d’abord de vous rappeler les principes qui guident mes convictions dans ce domaine : il m’apparaît indispensable que soit mise en place une politique familiale qui permette aux parents (un papa et une maman, cela va sans dire, mais cela va mieux en le disant) de fonder un foyer au meilleur des intérêts de l’enfant.

Cela passerait notamment par l’instauration du salaire parental permettant à l’un des deux parents de disposer d’un revenu décent, de cotiser pour la retraite et de prendre en charge l’éducation de leurs petits jusqu’à leur entrée en maternelle.

Ce faisant, nous replacerions l’interruption volontaire de grossesse dans l’esprit originel de la loi Veil : un acte d’ultime recours quand aucune autre solution n’existe. A ce titre, je m’oppose fermement à l’allongement du délai légal de l’IVG de 12 à 14 semaines ! Il faut en effet considérer la gravité de cet acte pour ce qu’il est (ce n’est pas un banal moyen de contraception) et permettre aux mères de disposer de toute la palette des solutions pour garder leur enfant, afin que l’IVG ne soit envisagée qu’en dernier ressort.

Enfin, l’article 2 de cette proposition de loi, qui retient particulièrement votre attention, préconise en effet la suppression de la double clause de conscience, ce qui m’apparaît condamnable à deux égards : d’abord parce qu’il s’agit d’un verrou permettant à un praticien d’exprimer ses convictions éthiques dans ce qui relève de sa conception intime de la vie humaine ; mais également parce qu’il y a lieu de s’interroger sur l’intérêt à légiférer pour des situations qui correspondent à moins de 5% des demandes annuelles d’IVG ! Aussi, n'aurai-je évidemment aucun mal à revenir sur cette disposition si elle devait être adoptée.

Vous assurant de mon entier soutien, je vous prie de croire, Cher Monsieur, à l’expression de mes salutations distinguées.


Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN
Si vous souhaitez connaître mes prises de position,
je vous invite à vous rendre sur le site internet www.2022nda.fr
et sur ma page Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nicolasdupontaignan/
où j’interviens tous les jours en direct
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programme présidentiel pour 2022 en cliquant ICI.

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moi à Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN

12/6/2021 at 6:39 PM

Re: Clause de conscience

Merci beaucoup pour la réponse.

Je vais bien entendu voir s'il y a quelqu'un qui voudra même abolir la "loi" Veil, mais en attendant, vous avez mon attention.

Puis-je vous poser encore une question? Seriez-vous d'accord de ramener l'âge nubile vers plus jeune en vue de remettre certaines grossesses sur les bons chemins? J'y ai réfléchi ici:

New blog on the kid : Le droit de ne pas avorter
https://nov9blogg9.blogspot.com/2021/12/le-droit-de-ne-pas-avorter.html

Hans Georg Lundahl

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moi à Présent, Critias, Rivarol, Chiré

3/20/2022 at 7:31 PM

en réponse à Bruno Mégret

http://nov9blogg9.blogspot.com/2022/03/pas-daccord-bruno-megret-pas-daccord.html

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Salon Beige (Guillaume de Thieulloy) à moi

5/2/2022 at 6:11 PM

Un procès qui pourrait bien se retourner contre le Grand Orient…

Chers amis,

Je savais que le procès du Salon beige avec le Grand Orient sur la question de l’avortement intéresserait beaucoup et ferait beaucoup parler. Mais je ne m’attendais pas à ce que ce soit à ce point.

J’ai reçu énormément de messages. Y compris des messages étonnants de francs-maçons se désolidarisant du Grand Orient et me disant qu’eux-mêmes refusaient les agressions anti-chrétiennes et la promotion du massacre des innocents.

Cela achève de me convaincre que nous tenons là une merveilleuse occasion de faire progresser les idées pro-vie bien au-delà des cercles cathos que nous avons l’habitude de toucher.

Il faut absolument intensifier notre communication.

[Liens de don, accessibles pour ceux qui s'abonnent à leur lettre, omis ici]

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moi à Guillaume de Thieulloy

5/3/2022 at 10:26 AM

Re: Un procès qui pourrait bien se retourner contre le Grand Orient…

Parlant d'agressions antichrétiennes ...

Aggressé, avant-hier matin · Après l'attaque - j'ai eu des problèmes de virilité

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moi à Bruno Gollnisch, Présent

5/6/2022 at 6:21 PM

6, clarifier votre message

Bonjour, M. Gollnisch.*

J'ai essayé de contacter Marine Le Pen pour savoir combien le RN est contre l'avortement. Pour ce qui est de Dupondt-Aignan, il a déjà répondu (avant le premier tour), qu'il veut abolir Gaissot**, mais pas aller plus loin.

Au moment que je le contactais, je croyais, par erreur, que le délai jusqu'à 14e semaine n'avait pas été retenue, seule l'abolition de la liberté de conscience pour les médecins, et étant le fils d'une étudiante de cette faculté qui était interne en gériatrie, parce que sa spécialité préférée, la gynécologie, lui était bloquée par un dispositif suédois de ce type (d'ailleurs identique, je pense, à ce qui se passe chez Poutine), j'avais demandé comme si la seule chose à faire (contre Gaillot) était de reconstituer la liberté des médecins de refuser. Mais bien entendu s'il voulait aller plus loin aussi.

Je suis assez d'accord avec Allie Beth Stuckey*** : quelle vue qu'on porte sur l'immigration, comment on en veut combattre certaines dérives, c'est une question politique, dont des Chrétiens peuvent être de diverses opinions. Je ne vois donc pas l'intérêt de conseiller les Français là-dessus, quand je suis immigré moi-même; par contre, être contre l'avortement est une obligation non négotiable pour toute politie non seulement de Chrétienté, mais compatible avec le Christianisme. Je peux donc, en simple Chrétien résidant en France, avoir mon mot à dire.

En 2012, j'aurais fait entrisme pour vous élire, plutôt que Marine, ce qu'on m'avait demandé à St. Nicolas du Chardonnet : parce que, pour vous, la lutte contre l'avortement était plus importante que la lutte contre clandestins, ou si j'avais bien compris. Ceci ne veut pas dire qu'en votant la présidentielle, j'aurais forcément préféré vous élire plutôt que le feu Axel de Boer.° Si j'avais été un Français.

Donc, j'essaie d'avoir des réponses, à républier sur mon blog de correspondance, quel est le parti qui lutte le plus contre l'avortement. J'aimerais publier les correspondances dessus avant les législatives.

Hans Georg Lundahl

* Si éventuellement sa boîte mail refuse d'accepter un mail de la mienne, je prie la rédaction à transmettre.
** J'ai reçu un coup sur la tête, si je suis contre une "loi plus sotte que gaie" c'est la "loi" Gaillot que je vise ici.
*** Sa vidéo et le post qui contient mes commentaires:
Seeing Tim Keller through Allie Beth Stuckey : Reflections on the Evil of Abortion, and Related Issues

Responding to Tim Keller’s Terrible Abortion Take | Ep 609
3rd May 2022 | Allie Beth Stuckey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYaRYJ7QXps

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Non, la Ste Jehanne d'Arc n'est pas une manif raciste ...
...et Pie XII n'a pas interdit le créationnisme ...

Chabad on Vera Cheberiak and St. Simon of Trent, feat. Luther and St. John Chrysostom

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Vera Cheberiak - was she of Jewish origin?

Is it possible she knew sufficient of ritual slaughter to imitate the proceding with a human object and simply was herself the one trying to blame Jews?

As for Beilis being "the Tsar's" scapegoat, it seems to me, he was rather, like the Kaiser in the Xanten case, trying to make a point of exonerating reasonably suspect Jewish collectivities.

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Simcha Bart to me

3/11/2022 at 7:20 AM

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B"H

Hi Hans Georg,

I think it is important to see the case in the context of how Russian people, as well as the Tsars, had been treating Jews during the century preceding the Beilis case, to get an understanding of the motivations of all the people involved. Tsarist Russia throughout those years had used pogroms and other oppressive means to distract their restive populace from expressing their discontent with their poor lot in other ways.

To just lay the blame on one individual, is not taking into consideration all the oppression and pogroms instigated by the Tsars and the Russian government that caused mass immigration from the Russian empire in the 1800s.

Further to suggest that that one individual was of Jewish origin - sounds like blaming the victim for his own persecution. Such an attitude only adds insult to injury.

Please don't hesitate to write back if I can be of any further help.

Best wishes,

Simcha Bart
Chabad.org

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Me to Simcha Bart

3/11/2022 at 5:29 PM

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There are other cases where I am very positive that the "blood libel" actually covers a misdeed done by Jews.

Let's take St. Simon of Trent.

There was a small Jewish community there, he went to play with them, he reappeared dead with the blood emptied as with a Jewish slaughter and with the throat slit accordingly, and I think that the latter was also the case with the boy in the Beilis case.

That's why I'm concerned about the origins of Vera Cheberiak.

In one other case, there seems to be an exoneration - Bl. Andrew of Rinn. No cut throat, but hung, and the only one to have seen the Jews (if any) was the uncle who is somewhat suspect to me.

With the boy from Bloys, I think we may have had to do with a kidnap, and the Christian boy taken away from Christian parents to be raised Jewish.

My theory of why this happened has something to do with whether the boys themselves (perhaps not Bl. Andrew, where Jews may have not been involved) had Jewish origins. No Sanhedrin, however rogue, would in a non-Hebrew country condemn any boy to death for the "crime of Christianity" if he were a goy. Or would they? I think such reactions can only be explained for Holy Land and if the boy was of Jewish origin.

You see, I don't see that the Jews were just helplessly taking persecution and not retaliating. Whether the persecution was real or apparent, merited or not.

So, I'd agree with you, killing a Christian boy is not a regular part of the Jewish religion. But it could nevertheless have been a recurring part of Jewish politics against Christians.

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Simcha Bart to me

3/11/2022 at 6:16 PM

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B"H

Hi Hans Georg,

There is no evidence for that blood libel either - that's why it's a libel, a complete fabrication. Just because a Christian institution decided to make the child a Saint - does not mean anything historically or factually.

The fact that you are "very positive" is not proof. I'm sure all of those who murdered and maimed thousands, if not tens of thousands of Jews throughout history - were "very positive" that Jews were guilty of all sorts of terrible things.

It is normal when looking back at history to try to justify what occurred then - but that tendency to whitewash and excuse terrible attacks against innocent men, women, and children is in itself bowing to evil.

That is how people come to justify and whitewash the murder of six million Jews by the Germans and their cohorts in other countries. People can't believe that there's such cruelty in the world - so they find it easier to blame the victim, especially if the victims are Jews, than to blame those who hate Jews.

The Church has instituted Jew hatred on an unprecedented scale.

Rome and christianity has been responsible for more deaths and displacements, tortures etc. of Jews throughout Jewish history, than any one other group or nation!

I never knew my grandparents, or most of my parents' families - because they were Jewish the vast majority of my fathers' family were placed against a wall by Nazis, who were practicing christians, and shot. Except for my father, only 2 cousins in his huge family survived their persecution!

No one nation or culture, whether ancient Egypt, Babylon, or Rome, to 20th century Germany, has killed as many Jews as christians and christians churches have!

To begin this journey of discovery of the macabre history of christianity, please see James Carroll's Constantine's Sword: The Church and the Jews -- A History, written by a former christian clergyman.

You may also want to read The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-Three Centuries of Antisemitism by Edward H. Flannery - another clergyman. I have not read this book but I picked up the following about it.

At the beginning, the author states that most of even well educated Christians have been in the dark about what has happened to the Jews throughout history and the Church's responsibility. The book covers anti-Semitism in all it's many forms, including persecution, torture, pogroms, massacres, social degradations, forced baptisms & conversions throughout the many periods of the Diaspora.

You are also encouraged to look at the book of John, and his hatred of the Jews. Then read the Homilies of Chrysostom. And here is something from Martin Luther as well:

"What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? Since they live among us and we know about their lying and blasphemy and cursing, we cannot tolerate them if we do not wish to share in their lies, curses, and blasphemy. . . . .We must prayerfully and reverentially practice a merciful severity. . . . .

"Let me give you my honest advice:

"First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our LORD and of Christendom.

"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed.

"Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.

"Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb.

"Fifth, I advise that safe conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let them stay at home. [We might well ask "What home?", since they were all presumably burned in point two!]

"Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them, and put aside for safe keeping.

"Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hand of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow."

Please don't hesitate to write back if I can be of any further help.

Best wishes,

Simcha Bart
Chabad.org

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Me to Simcha Bart

3/12/2022 at 1:04 PM

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Look at the attack of the Synagogue of York.

Then look at who killed the children inside - yes, the fathers, to spare them the "horror" of being baptised. They also killed their wives and themselves / each other Masada style.

"The Church has instituted Jew hatred on an unprecedented scale."

Very much on the contrary, Jews have instituted the first hatred of the Church and have continued, and the Church has not been generous with retaliation./HGL

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Simcha Bart to me

3/13/2022 at 3:10 AM

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B"H

Hi Hans Georg,

Please read the two books which I told you about by people from within the Church.

Please don't hesitate to write back if I can be of any further help.

Best wishes,

Simcha Bart
Chabad.org

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Me to Simcha Bart

3/14/2022 at 8:53 PM

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As for St. John Chrysostom, he lived in a time when Jews were bad.

As for Martin Luther - he was bad. He got expelled from the Church for it.

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Simcha Bart to me

3/15/2022 at 12:44 AM

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Hi Hans Georg,

We won't get anywhere like this, as there's no way to settle such an argument.

Just as you think that Luther was bad - I think that about anyone in the Church who said, and ultimately caused, pogroms, ghettos, and the Holocaust. Regardless of the Church considers them a "saint".

I say Luther and John are all wrong about the Jews - period.

Please don't hesitate to write back if I can be of any further help.

Best wishes,

Simcha Bart
Chabad.org

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The joyous holiday of Purim begins this Wednesday evening, March 16 through Thursday, March 17 (March 18 in Jerusalem).
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Me to Simcha Bart

3/15/2022 at 11:16 AM

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There is a kind of Jews I think you won't frequent. The kind who get into astrology, sexology and give Christians or secularised such lots of bad tips on living, or good tips on sex life, depending on your point of view.

Those are THE exact kind of Jews St. John Chrysostom had in mind.

Sure, he used hard language about rejecting the true Messiah as well, but he did not have to do with The Black Hundreds, and it's not his fault that some of the people who actually did commit pogroms were quotemining him.

Luther is something else, he was against Jews, rebellious farmers, and Catholic clergy remaining faithful to the Church. And he did foment violence (directly with rebellious farmers, by clumsiness at least in the other cases) in his own lifetime. Blaming Catholics for his faults is like blaming you on Chabad for Baruch Spinoza's heresies ...

Hans Georg Lundahl

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Simcha Bart to me

3/16/2022 at 6:00 AM

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B"H

Hi Hans Georg,

I think we will just be going around in circles, as you have your convictions and I have mine.

I believe that even though Luther broke away from Catholicism - he was drawing on his what he grew up with. You will most probably disagree with me.

I believe that the Spanish Inquisition, as well as the Crusades, and various pogroms were all created by Church teachings - you may disagree.

So where does that leave us? You can read the books I recommended, or not. But until you do, I do not see how we can have a productive dialogue.

At the moment then, it looks to me that our conversation about this topic is at an end.

Best wishes,

Simcha Bart
Chabad.org

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Me to Simcha Bart

3/16/2022 at 3:04 PM

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I think you just gave those books a very scathing review:

"I believe that the Spanish Inquisition, as well as the Crusades, and various pogroms were all created by Church teachings - you may disagree."

If this is what you get from these books, you and they have a problem.

If I recommended you read "Dictionnaire Apologétique de la Foi Catholique" and its articles on the Jews, would you?

I believe the Inquisition and the Crusades were very well created by Church teachings - and that neither of them targetted Jews as Jews (crypto-Jews are another context).

I also believe no pogroms were created by Church teaching, note well, Roman Catholic one. They were indeed punishable by the Church authorities, and most notably by the Inquisition.

A book that ties Crusades, Inquisition, Spanish or other, to pogroms, or even two of them, is, to my mind, out of court.

Crusades targetted non-Christian political powers, as per Church doctrine, and in the first crusade, some of the popular support came to target Jews as an Ersatz for actual Sarrasins, despite it (and Peter the Hermit left the Crusade after he had seen this happening), but this was not the cause with the lords' crusade or later crusades.

The Inquisitions before the Spanish one had no task of targetting crypto-Jews, and even the Spanish one wasn't targetting open Jews (while at a certain moment, the political power, drawing on history about the Moorish invasion, did).

Pogroms are rare in the West outside certain precise contexts:

• in response to at least purported killings of children, early on in England
• in the Germanies when no Kaiser was around (both Rex Rintfleisch and Hitler)
• in the Germanies in the Alemannic area, which came, like Luther, to mostly leave Catholicism.

"I believe that even though Luther broke away from Catholicism - he was drawing on his what he grew up with."

Yes and no.

What he believed about Jews may have been 100 % what Catholics then and there believed, and perhaps as much as 90 % of it actual Church doctrine.

How and when he expressed it (in 1536) was however not a question of Catholic pastoral.

He was actually drawing on what he grew up with in 1514 (while still a Catholic) and saying:

Conversion of the Jews will be the work of God alone operating from within, and not of man working — or rather playing — from without. If these offences be taken away, worse will follow. For they are thus given over by the wrath of God to reprobation, that they may become incorrigible, as Ecclesiastes says, for every one who is incorrigible is rendered worse rather than better by correction. (1)

And even just after the break, 1519 and 23:

"Absurd theologians defend hatred for the Jews. ... What Jew would consent to enter our ranks when he sees the cruelty and enmity we wreak on them—that in our behavior towards them we less resemble Christians than beasts?" (2)

"If I had been a Jew and had seen such dolts and blockheads govern and teach the Christian faith, I would sooner have become a hog than a Christian. They have dealt with the Jews as if they were dogs rather than human beings; they have done little else than deride them and seize their property. When they baptize them they show them nothing of Christian doctrine or life, but only subject them to popishness and mockery...If the apostles, who also were Jews, had dealt with us Gentiles as we Gentiles deal with the Jews, there would never have been a Christian among the Gentiles ... When we are inclined to boast of our position [as Christians] we should remember that we are but Gentiles, while the Jews are of the lineage of Christ. We are aliens and in-laws; they are blood relatives, cousins, and brothers of our Lord. Therefore, if one is to boast of flesh and blood the Jews are actually nearer to Christ than we are...If we really want to help them, we must be guided in our dealings with them not by papal law but by the law of Christian love. We must receive them cordially, and permit them to trade and work with us, that they may have occasion and opportunity to associate with us, hear our Christian teaching, and witness our Christian life. If some of them should prove stiff-necked, what of it? After all, we ourselves are not all good Christians either." (3)

His book Of the Jews and their Lies is from 1536, believed to be influenced by Anton Margaritha, a convert from Judaism who (like the parents of Cantor and Marx) became a Lutheran.

I'm giving the source wikipedia and the sources it gave:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

• 1. Martin Luther, "Luther to George Spalatin Archived 2007-07-02 at the Wayback Machine," in Luther's Correspondence and Other Contemporaneous Letters, trans. Henry Preserved Smith (Philadelphia: Lutheran Publication Society, 1913), 1:29.
• 2. Luther quoted in Elliot Rosenberg, But Were They Good for the Jews? (New York: Birch Lane Press, 1997), p.65.
• 3. Martin Luther, "That Jesus Christ was Born a Jew," Trans. Walter I. Brandt, in Luther's Works (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1962), pp. 200–201, 229.

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Me to Simcha Bart

3/16/2022 at 3:09 PM

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Here Luther was NOT drawing on what he had learnt as a Catholic before the break:

In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[2] afforded no legal protection,[3] and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[4] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

It was more probably popular demand, of the type that Luther had equally pandered to when denouncing Catholic beggar monks (as early as 95 theses)./HGL

Epilogue:

It seems I either forgot to answer or lost my mail to Simcha about "the book of John".

I celebrated St. Patrick and not Purim. This was perhaps the reason why certain things happened./HGL