Friday, 13 July 2018

With Damien Mackey on Four Rivers and Related, I to X


Creation vs. Evolution : How Much was Shinar Devastated by the Flood? · You Find a Fossil Whale Here, a Fossil Pterosaur There ... · Answering Carter and Cosner on Eden · Trying to Break Down "Reverse Danube" or "Reverse Euphrates" Concept · Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : With Damien Mackey on Four Rivers and Related, I to X · Continuing Previous, XI to XX - are Nile Rivers Excluded? · Continuing Previous : XXI to XXXIII - getting to Troy (as we Tend to Do)

Four Rivers
Maps shown here, together, instead of lower, in each email.

Frat


Hiddekel


Phison


Gehon


Correspondence
starts here:

I
Me to Damien Mackey
7/1/2018 at 6:04 PM
remember "reverse Danube"?
Here is a comment:

Creation vs. Evolution : Trying to Break Down "Reverse Danube" or "Reverse Euphrates" Concept
http://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2018/07/trying-to-break-down-reverse-danube-or.html


II
Damien Mackey to me
7/2/2018 at 1:31 AM
Re: remember "reverse Danube"?
H-GL
I'd love to see a simple map of your proposal. That would make it very easy for all of us to digest.

Best wishes,
Damien.

III
Me to Damien Mackey
7/2/2018 at 9:35 AM
Re: remember "reverse Danube"?
Hmmmm ... I'll see what I can do ...

Here is my proposal for Frat:

[Frat, see above]

IV
Me to Damien Mackey
7/2/2018 at 9:39 AM
Here is Hiddekel
[Hiddekel, see above]

V
Me to Damien Mackey
7/2/2018 at 9:45 AM
Phison
[Phison, see above]

VI
Me to Damien Mackey
7/2/2018 at 9:50 AM
Gehon
Note that I deleted part of Atlantic in Google map screen shot, to approach Amazonas river to Niger Congo and White Nile:

[Gehon, see above]

VII
Damien Mackey to me
7/3/2018 at 1:46 AM
Re: Gehon
You did a very good job. And so quickly.

Looks a bit too vast for the antediluvian world for my liking, but well done nonetheless.

VIII
Me to Damien Mackey
7/3/2018 at 11:15 AM
Re: Gehon
Why would the antediluvian world have been smaller?

There is nothing in either Bible or rational conclusions from it saying that the globe was extended during the Flood.

IX
Damien Mackey to me
7/4/2018 at 2:37 AM
Re: Gehon
You have only to read the size of the "world" (earth) when the people from all under heaven heard the Apostles.

Even that late in time, the world ranged from, say, Persia to Ethiopia only.

My Tasmania does not get a look in. And I am sure than Noah never went anywhere near Hobart.

The Queen of Sheba came from the ends of the world (earth), not from Tasmania, or South America, or New Zealand, but just down the road from Israel.

You do not need to impose modern concepts upon ancient texts. That's Fundamentalism - which ain't all that fundamental.

X
Me to Damien Mackey
7/4/2018 at 12:25 PM
Re: Gehon
The world was split up in the days of Peleg.

This "small world" you talk of is a result of this split. China, though heard of, is really an other world, India also.

This break up happened at carbon date 8600 BC and real date 2562 BC, six years before birth of Peleg in 2556 BC.

Also, when you say "Ethiopia" I suspect you mean the country of the Blue Nile, the country of Axoum, Addis Abbeba, something which is already ended where Somalia or Horn of African begins.

To a Greek or Roman "Ethiopia" means "aithi-op-eia" land of burnt faces, that is, all of Black Africa.

That is why Moses, who was inerrantly inspired, said that Gehon - not using the name Nile! - encompassed all of Kush (ancestor of men with black faces), which LXX translates as Aithiopeia.

Of the Nile only, it would have been inadequate, but Nile with Niger and Kongo rivers taken together, that is another matter.

So, my hypothesis is, the words of Moses about Gehon apply equally to the riverbeds of Nile, Niger and Kongo rivers taken together.

Even you must be aware American Clovis points show suspicious similarities to Solutrean points ... not explicable if there was no contact.

And yes, in my recalibration of carbon dates to Biblical chronology, Solutrean and Clovis styles are post-Flood but pre-Babel.

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